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Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

lixin — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:39:38 GMT

Why can't I open the video?

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

cycyber — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:33:26 GMT

I dont understand the <T> lol. Please explain.

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Steve Schroeder — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:35:57 GMT

I swear, if you change the name of DataGrid -> GridView -> DataGridView I'm going postal on someone!

Re: Re: Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Stan Spotts — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:46:11 GMT

One of the things Rational has is the ability to drag and drop a pattern onto your design. While you can implement this via GAT packages or Blueprints, the simplicity of dragging from a list of patterns onto your design and having the UML (okay, so it's not THAT great ;)) added was pretty cool to see. Basically, a simple way to implement patterns. I'd like that in VSTS.

I didn't get to see what happens after the initial drag and drop, so I don't know if you could easily back it out, refactor it (say you implemented the facade pattern and decided later the mediator pattern was a better fit), or anything else.

Re: Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Stan Spotts — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:44:16 GMT

It's definitely my favorite cup. Non-MS devs get the funniest look, and devs just think it's cool.

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Rafael Valdés — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:44:54 GMT

I'd like final release of VS2010 has better distributed the Start Page, I think you lose a big amount of space with this, maybe more space for recent projects, and VS logo smaller.

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

JasonZ — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:20:17 GMT

The Cup<T> came from the CLR BCL team when we were implementing generics in CLR V2. Anthony Moore (who was the dev lead for the team at the time) has a brilliantly dry sense of humor. Funiest. Cup. Ever. :) Jason

Re: Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Jason Olson — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:53:37 GMT

Hey eclipseFan,

We'll have a video on Wednesday that will go into some more details on the code-focused (including code navigation) features coming in Visual Studio 2010. As for your #1 item, you will want to check out Quick Search. Quick Search is very powerful and has a smart algorithm that even takes account of camel casing. So if I want to find the class "MyLoginController", I can press ctrl+. to bring up Quick Search and simply type "MLC" to navigate to that class. It will also do file names on top of types.

There is definitely increased support for Refactoring coming, so expect to hear more about that in the future.

There is no denying that Eclipse is a VERY powerful IDE and you will see Microsoft doing a lot of things to make sure Visual Studio continues to be a Best Of Breed IDE in the coding space.

Do you have more information on #3? I'm not familiar with that.

I'll make sure to get your feedback to the product team. Thanks again!

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Bill Gates III — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:36:23 GMT

Is MS planning on implementing some of the features available in Eclipse?? I'd really like to see a number of very useful features like:
1. Type navigator (CTRL+T) and type class name to navigate to it. Compare that with the slow solution explorer, find file and double click
2. Refactoring support - eclipse just beat VS hands down in this area.
3. breadcrumb navigation etc

really disappointed in VS 2008. Hope these refactoring and navigations features get in soon.

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Christian Liensberger — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:00:19 GMT

That's awesome :D I wonder if he is having a "cup of t(ea)" ;)

Re: Re: Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Jason Olson — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:49:15 GMT

Yeah, I first noticed the Cup<T> cup in Anders' office believe. I may just be a geek, but I thought it was the best coffee cup I had ever seen :P.

Re: Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

kettch — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:30:34 GMT

Good video.

lol at the Cup<T>

Re: Visual Studio 2010 Overview

Chad Moran — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:28:28 GMT

Good to see these changes coming to VS2010.